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		<title>By: Govindini Murty</title>
		<link>http://www.libertasfilmmagazine.com/robin-hood-clash-of-the-titans-and-the-undermining-of-the-western-hero/comment-page-1/#comment-395</link>
		<dc:creator>Govindini Murty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 19:07:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Curtin/Dobbs!  It&#039;s nice to be back and it&#039;s fun to get back in touch with our Libertas readers.  And yes, you make a very good point.  I didn&#039;t know that this stuff was creeping into Disney cartoons like &quot;Brother Bear&quot; and &quot;Lilo and Stitch&quot; as well.  I will have to check it out.  American movies used to be a force for good in the world, and it&#039;s very disturbing now that the most anti-American movies ... are made right here in America, by liberals who then claim that anti-Americanism overseas is what makes them put it into their own films.  Give me a break.  Well, Libertas is here to expose all of this.  Thanks for reading!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Curtin/Dobbs!  It&#8217;s nice to be back and it&#8217;s fun to get back in touch with our Libertas readers.  And yes, you make a very good point.  I didn&#8217;t know that this stuff was creeping into Disney cartoons like &#8220;Brother Bear&#8221; and &#8220;Lilo and Stitch&#8221; as well.  I will have to check it out.  American movies used to be a force for good in the world, and it&#8217;s very disturbing now that the most anti-American movies &#8230; are made right here in America, by liberals who then claim that anti-Americanism overseas is what makes them put it into their own films.  Give me a break.  Well, Libertas is here to expose all of this.  Thanks for reading!</p>
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		<title>By: Curtin/Dobbs</title>
		<link>http://www.libertasfilmmagazine.com/robin-hood-clash-of-the-titans-and-the-undermining-of-the-western-hero/comment-page-1/#comment-393</link>
		<dc:creator>Curtin/Dobbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 16:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great and insightful article Ms. Murty and I&#039;m so glad that you guys are back up and running. One of your most telling observations to me was an aside:  &quot;(As an aside: one wonders why Western liberals like Ridley Scott who so consistently deride Christianity and belief in God are nonetheless so eager to affirm Muslim religiosity.)&quot; This self-flagelation of the West coupled with veneration of non-Western peoples and beliefs has been a head shaking irritant to me for as long as I can remember. And they cheat, too--most famously in AVATAR, where the blue folks beliefs are real, rather than based on Faith. It even pops up in routine Disney faire like BROTHER BEAR, where the Native American beliefs play out for all to see. Another example of (needless) Western bashing from Disney is LILO AND STITCH, which nonetheless is a favorite film in my household. The unappealing human characters in  the movie are all unattractive American white people (except for Elvis Presley), and everything&#039;s played for irreverent comedy except for hula dancing, which the filmmmakers went to great lengths to depict with respect and authenticity. I could go on and on with other examples from countless films, but I&#039;ll spare you. What Good is taken away from American movies by Americans, aspiring Americans and the rest of the World?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great and insightful article Ms. Murty and I&#8217;m so glad that you guys are back up and running. One of your most telling observations to me was an aside:  &#8220;(As an aside: one wonders why Western liberals like Ridley Scott who so consistently deride Christianity and belief in God are nonetheless so eager to affirm Muslim religiosity.)&#8221; This self-flagelation of the West coupled with veneration of non-Western peoples and beliefs has been a head shaking irritant to me for as long as I can remember. And they cheat, too&#8211;most famously in AVATAR, where the blue folks beliefs are real, rather than based on Faith. It even pops up in routine Disney faire like BROTHER BEAR, where the Native American beliefs play out for all to see. Another example of (needless) Western bashing from Disney is LILO AND STITCH, which nonetheless is a favorite film in my household. The unappealing human characters in  the movie are all unattractive American white people (except for Elvis Presley), and everything&#8217;s played for irreverent comedy except for hula dancing, which the filmmmakers went to great lengths to depict with respect and authenticity. I could go on and on with other examples from countless films, but I&#8217;ll spare you. What Good is taken away from American movies by Americans, aspiring Americans and the rest of the World?</p>
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		<title>By: Govindini Murty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Govindini Murty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 10:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent points Andrew - I couldn&#039;t agree with you more.  It was dreadful what they did to &quot;Robin Hood&quot; and &quot;Clash of the Titans,&quot; and equally dreadful what they did to the story of Troy (though at least there was no pro-terrorist message in that that I could discern).  And now they are going to ruin the story or King Arthur as well?  Unbelievable.  

Hollywood&#039;s Baby Boomer leftists are still stuck in the anti-Western rebellion of the 1960s, and they are the ones who are now hiring a new generation of writers and directors to ruin all these classic Western stories today.  It is a deliberate effort to undermine everything we believe in so that we will then be persuaded to believe their political propaganda.  And no, they have complete contempt for Greek mythology (and anything else that is part of the traditional Western canon) because they consider its stories of individual heroism and divine favor too damaging to their efforts at secular collectivism.        

At least &quot;300,&quot; as you point out, stayed true to the mythic/heroic dimensions of what the Battle of Thermopylae has meant to the West.  Let&#039;s hope that more creative figures like Frank Miller emerge in the film industry to undo the damage of the cultural revisionists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent points Andrew &#8211; I couldn&#8217;t agree with you more.  It was dreadful what they did to &#8220;Robin Hood&#8221; and &#8220;Clash of the Titans,&#8221; and equally dreadful what they did to the story of Troy (though at least there was no pro-terrorist message in that that I could discern).  And now they are going to ruin the story or King Arthur as well?  Unbelievable.  </p>
<p>Hollywood&#8217;s Baby Boomer leftists are still stuck in the anti-Western rebellion of the 1960s, and they are the ones who are now hiring a new generation of writers and directors to ruin all these classic Western stories today.  It is a deliberate effort to undermine everything we believe in so that we will then be persuaded to believe their political propaganda.  And no, they have complete contempt for Greek mythology (and anything else that is part of the traditional Western canon) because they consider its stories of individual heroism and divine favor too damaging to their efforts at secular collectivism.        </p>
<p>At least &#8220;300,&#8221; as you point out, stayed true to the mythic/heroic dimensions of what the Battle of Thermopylae has meant to the West.  Let&#8217;s hope that more creative figures like Frank Miller emerge in the film industry to undo the damage of the cultural revisionists.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Winkless</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Winkless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jun 2010 02:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At last someone gives the execrable Clash of the Titans remake the thrashing it so greatly deserves (haven&#039;t seen Robin Hood, but don&#039;t have any expectations of it).  I have never before seen a remake where every single aspect that is different from the original, point for point, is much worse.  Even the effects are not especially better.  The writers clearly knew nothing and cared less about Greek mythology, and not much about the original movie either.  With the exception of 300(which if memory serves the critics didn&#039;t like), I don&#039;t believe hollywood has ever made a good movie about greek mythology/history since Clash of the Titans (the 80&#039;s version).

What I would truly like to know, however, is why Hollywood insists on expunging all supernatural elements from the story of the Trojan war, and for that matter taking the side of the Trojans.  The entire story ceases to make sense if the gods aren&#039;t involved and simultaneously loses any value.  I would dearly like to see a Frank Miller Troy film: he seems to get the point: the important thing about the battle of Thermopylae, even at the TIME, was not the fact so much as they myth and the inspiration it provided to all Greece.  By treating Thermopylae as a myth he did it more justice than any of the more &#039;realistic&#039; attempts.  Conversely, Hollywood tries to make Troy movies &#039;historical&#039; and about geopolitics.

Oh, and a final note to Hollywood: get your grubby paws off King Arthur.  I don&#039;t particularly care if a historically &#039;real&#039; Arthur would have been a grubby Romano-Celtic semi barbarian, that is not the point of the story.  You don&#039;t have to exactly mimic Excalibur, but look up the words &#039;knight&#039; and &#039;chivalry&#039; before you start.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At last someone gives the execrable Clash of the Titans remake the thrashing it so greatly deserves (haven&#8217;t seen Robin Hood, but don&#8217;t have any expectations of it).  I have never before seen a remake where every single aspect that is different from the original, point for point, is much worse.  Even the effects are not especially better.  The writers clearly knew nothing and cared less about Greek mythology, and not much about the original movie either.  With the exception of 300(which if memory serves the critics didn&#8217;t like), I don&#8217;t believe hollywood has ever made a good movie about greek mythology/history since Clash of the Titans (the 80&#8217;s version).</p>
<p>What I would truly like to know, however, is why Hollywood insists on expunging all supernatural elements from the story of the Trojan war, and for that matter taking the side of the Trojans.  The entire story ceases to make sense if the gods aren&#8217;t involved and simultaneously loses any value.  I would dearly like to see a Frank Miller Troy film: he seems to get the point: the important thing about the battle of Thermopylae, even at the TIME, was not the fact so much as they myth and the inspiration it provided to all Greece.  By treating Thermopylae as a myth he did it more justice than any of the more &#8216;realistic&#8217; attempts.  Conversely, Hollywood tries to make Troy movies &#8216;historical&#8217; and about geopolitics.</p>
<p>Oh, and a final note to Hollywood: get your grubby paws off King Arthur.  I don&#8217;t particularly care if a historically &#8216;real&#8217; Arthur would have been a grubby Romano-Celtic semi barbarian, that is not the point of the story.  You don&#8217;t have to exactly mimic Excalibur, but look up the words &#8216;knight&#8217; and &#8216;chivalry&#8217; before you start.</p>
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		<title>By: Govindini Murty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Govindini Murty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 19:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>K - Thanks for your comment!  We aim to provide the truth here on Libertas about the real messages in the films that are out there right now.  I agree, I too am tired of all the &quot;sucker punches&quot; in big films today.  They lure you in with a story that seems to be about a classic character like Robin Hood or Perseus, and then they sneak in their propaganda and just ruin the story.  

I don&#039;t know if it&#039;s because there is Islamic money in these films - I just think Hollywood is just doing all this on their own.  Anyway, lots more on this subject coming up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>K &#8211; Thanks for your comment!  We aim to provide the truth here on Libertas about the real messages in the films that are out there right now.  I agree, I too am tired of all the &#8220;sucker punches&#8221; in big films today.  They lure you in with a story that seems to be about a classic character like Robin Hood or Perseus, and then they sneak in their propaganda and just ruin the story.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if it&#8217;s because there is Islamic money in these films &#8211; I just think Hollywood is just doing all this on their own.  Anyway, lots more on this subject coming up.</p>
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		<title>By: Govindini Murty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Govindini Murty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 19:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps Claude - hadn&#039;t really thought of it that way - but if you&#039;re French, yes I could definitely see how you&#039;d be offended.  The French are depicted in the film as marauding and looting their way through the English countryside and killing civilians and attempting to rape women ... I didn&#039;t really understand why Ridley Scott was depicting them this way, but then I wondered if he&#039;s angry at the French right now because they elected the conservative Nicholas Sarkozy.  Perhaps it&#039;s an anti-Sarkozy dig?  Hard to say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps Claude &#8211; hadn&#8217;t really thought of it that way &#8211; but if you&#8217;re French, yes I could definitely see how you&#8217;d be offended.  The French are depicted in the film as marauding and looting their way through the English countryside and killing civilians and attempting to rape women &#8230; I didn&#8217;t really understand why Ridley Scott was depicting them this way, but then I wondered if he&#8217;s angry at the French right now because they elected the conservative Nicholas Sarkozy.  Perhaps it&#8217;s an anti-Sarkozy dig?  Hard to say.</p>
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		<title>By: K</title>
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		<dc:creator>K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 00:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your take on these pictures and the &quot;sucker punches&quot; contained therein. I don&#039;t remember any other critics pointing this out and it&#039;s the kind of thing I like to know before seeing a movie. Fortunately, I missed both of these just based on the reviews and reputation of the directors, but it was possible that I would have wasted a few bucks on a DVD rental. Thanks again, I don&#039;t need the annoyance of message movies by moral idiots. 

One wonders how much Islamic money is being invested in Hollywood behind the scenes these days to keep the old propaganda machine going. Of course, it&#039;s entirely possible that Hollywood isn&#039;t getting any money and are just doing this on their own - which makes them a really cheap lay - but we knew that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your take on these pictures and the &#8220;sucker punches&#8221; contained therein. I don&#8217;t remember any other critics pointing this out and it&#8217;s the kind of thing I like to know before seeing a movie. Fortunately, I missed both of these just based on the reviews and reputation of the directors, but it was possible that I would have wasted a few bucks on a DVD rental. Thanks again, I don&#8217;t need the annoyance of message movies by moral idiots. </p>
<p>One wonders how much Islamic money is being invested in Hollywood behind the scenes these days to keep the old propaganda machine going. Of course, it&#8217;s entirely possible that Hollywood isn&#8217;t getting any money and are just doing this on their own &#8211; which makes them a really cheap lay &#8211; but we knew that.</p>
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		<title>By: Claude</title>
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		<dc:creator>Claude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2010 18:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In typical American fashion &quot;Robin Hood&quot; objectifies the French by making them into &quot;the swarthy, unwashed other.&quot;  Perhaps this is the &quot;tea party&quot; cinema as some have claimed since it vilifies those dangerous European &quot;elites.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In typical American fashion &#8220;Robin Hood&#8221; objectifies the French by making them into &#8220;the swarthy, unwashed other.&#8221;  Perhaps this is the &#8220;tea party&#8221; cinema as some have claimed since it vilifies those dangerous European &#8220;elites.&#8221;</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2010 16:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Trojan Horse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trojan Horse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2010 16:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are no real men in the movies anymore.  Heroism is over for the post-mo crowd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are no real men in the movies anymore.  Heroism is over for the post-mo crowd.</p>
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